PLUS – WHY BRIAN GOUDIE TOOK UP LAW
Lawyers for British journalist Andrew Drummond are meeting to discuss bringing contempt of court charges against two fake lawyers who touted their services in Pattaya.
They relate to false claims by both Drew Walter Noyes, boss of One Stop Service Center and Brian Goudie boss of a company called Alba Laws.
Among the false claims are that (1) Drummond was recently sent to jail for libel and was convicted under the Computer Crime Act (2) Drummond had been convicted of writing a libelous statement (3) Drummond was convicted of a libel ten years ago and was appealing against conviction to the Supreme Court (4) that the Bangkok Post gave evidence against Andrew Drummond.
In fact Andrew Drummond has been acquitted of all libel claims made against him including the one ten years ago by a British businessman in the commercial sex trade in Pattaya. He has never been convicted under the Computer Crime Act.
The only judgment which is being appealed is one that he allowed a poster on the site www.andrew-drummond.com to post what a judge considered libels. The Bangkok Post has never given evidence against Andrew Drummond. It paid for the defence of Andrew Drummond.
Goudie and Hanks between them have lost 12 cases they brought against Andrew Drummond and Ally Cooper, a supporter of this site.
All the above demonstrate deliberate misreporting and distortion of cases in the Thai courts.
Goudie claimed to be a British barrister and former officer in the Royal Marines. Drew Noyes claimed to be an American lawyer. He later withdrew the claim when he was exposed on this site.
Goldie’s text to a former client |
Legal action is also being considered against Brian Goudie in regard to libelous emails sent to the Managing Editor of the London Evening Standard and impersonating a former lawyer who had previously worked for his company Alba Laws.
Drew Noyes is currently on trial for extortion in Pattaya. Brian Goudie, aka Goldie, a former convict in Australia, is on criminal trial for cheating an American woman out of 7.9 million baht. He already has a civil judgment against him.
Drummond said: “The decision will depend on costs and strategy. Things are kicking in which may make this action superfluous.”
Goudie meanwhile has emailed his friends claiming to be much maligned. He said he did do time in Australia, but only when he was wrongfully arrested. At the time the Scottish Sunday Mail described Goudie, then known as Goldie, as ‘A Scot branded Australia’s most wanted illegal immigrant’.
‘I have no criminal record! The real story is I have no criminal record, and I am getting a copy of it, and I am going to stick that copy right up a few people’s arses, starting with Andrew Drummond.’
“Dear , (redacted)
I am tired of all the muck raking.
I have kept all this to myself for 10 years, to be honest I had tried to put it behind me. However, it seems I cant. Now I have to defend myself all over again,
Yes, I got locked up in Australia, it was a fucking nightmare. Now it has started all over again, muck raking about 20 year old shite. I was not locked up for six years in 2002, in fact from 2002 to 2005 I was living in Shawlands.
(Not that surprising as he was released from Hakea Prison WA in 2002 after serving his sentence with remission)
The real story is I have no criminal record, and I am getting a copy of it, and I am going to stick that copy right up a few people’s arses, starting with Andrew Drummond.
When I got arrested, my ex took the lot, the house, the cars, the bank
book, the fucking lot.
I had no money left, she got it all, easy when the partner is locked
up. I had to go in front of the Federal Court, and the Federal Court
of Appeal by myself.
(Actually he had to hand back his ill gotten gains after he was arrested for stealing AUS$400,000 plus from his employers)
I took nine police and immigration officers to Court, and in 2002 a
Full Bench of the Federal Court of Australia found:
Goudie wrote a story headed Drummond caught with prostitute and sent it to the Evening Standard. They enjoyed the story. But it was fiction as usual. |
” Mr Cain’s action in arresting the appellant was precipitate and not
justified. It was not based on knowledge or reasonable suspicion on the part of Mr Cain. It was not suggested that any other ground
justified the arrest and detention of the appellant. That arrest and
detention was therefore unlawful and gives rise to a right to damages on the part of the appellant.”
In other words, I was wrongfully arrested and locked up for nothing.
And beat them. It was a horror story, and I lost a lot of money, which is why I then took up the law, because I saw how people who had got fucked by the police or government and did not have a huge bank book could do virtually nothing.
Now you know why I detest the police and immigration”.
“And then there was the fraudster. He was mortified to be grabbed by the back of his pants outside his workplace in full view of Perth’s business community, his mobile phone and briefcase confiscated before he was tossed by officers into a waiting van”.
Goudie included in his email some carefully edited text from the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper. He deleted unflattering references to himself including the quote above. But the startling thing is that he admits that he is the man in this article. Yet he denies he has been convicted of stealing as an employee in Western Australia and claims the court records I have shown are ‘forgeries’.
This is his version:
“Headed ‘QUEING FOR
JUSTICE” (sic)
And then there was Brian Goldie. Goldie, a British citizen, spent most
of the 1990s in Australia on a series of different visas.
(HE HAS MISSED OUT SOMETHING VITAL HERE)
He remained in Australia on bridging visas, but in 1998, gaps in the
department’s computer records – since horribly exposed by the
investigation by former AFP head Mick Palmer into the Rau case – led
officials to believe he did not have a visa, and should be detained.
On the day, security guards marched him from his office to the foyer
of his company’s Perth building, where two officers were waiting to
take him into immigration detention.
(HE HAS MISSED OUT SOMETHING VITAL HERE TOO)
One officer told him that if he resisted he would be handcuffed, while
the other made him hand over his mobile phone and briefcase. Telling
Goldie he had no choice, one of the pair walked behind him, holding
his belt, until they got into a waiting van. At the detention centre,
Goldie was searched, made to remove his tie and shoelaces and
photographed.
The belief that he did not have a visa was wrong, so when he was taken
into detention in February 1998, in April 2002 the Federal Court of
Appeal found he was falsely imprisoned.
While his period in detention was far shorter than in the other cases,
what upset Goldie was his arrest “in full view of the public in the
business area of Perth”, being held by the back of the pants while he
was moved into a waiting van and being searched on arrival at the
detention centre.
NOW THE FULL ARTICLE BELOW AND AT THIS LINK
SO NOW TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THIS BELOW
AND FINALLY MORE GOUDIE CLAIMS EXPOSED
Dear Mr Drummond,
Thank you for your email to the Ambassador below, he has asked me to reply on his behalf.
We are unaware of the story you refer to suggesting that you are under investigation by authorities in Australia and have no record of receiving a complaint against you or of any documents of any kind being passed to you through the Australian embassy. We are also not aware if you are under investigation in Australia for any reason. If you wish to confirm this you will need to approach the Australian Federal Police and each State and Territory police force in Australia to seek their advice. Visitors, with a legitimate reason to visit the Embassy, may do so. Visitors are not banned from coming to the Embassy unless there is a security reason to do so. If you wish to make an affirmation at the Embassy, you can do this during normal working hours at the consular section of the embassy. Fees for witnessing an affirmation will apply.
Best regards
Trudy McGowan
Acting Consul General and SAO
Australian Embassy Bangkok
From: Andrew Drummond [mailto:andrew@andrew-drummond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:49 AM
To: ‘james.wise@dfat.com.au’
Subject: FW: H E James Wise and Andrew Drummond
Your Excellency,
My attention has been drawn to the following weblink referring to both yourself and myself in the same story.(see below)
The story almost certainly written by Brian Goudie, better known in Australia as Brian James Goldie, suggests that I am under investigation by State and Commonwealth Authorities in Australia and that I could face jail time.
Could you please inform me of the offences of which I am accused, if any? I do have many documents relating to Mr. Goudie, as Mr. Goldie, and all those documents have been obtained by lawyers and thus I assume legally.
Further Mr. Goudie has claimed that documents I provided which showed that he had been sentenced to three periods of 2 years by Judge Fenbury DCJ at Perth District Court on March 11 2001, and that a warrant of arrest issued by Scottish police, were forgeries. He further stated that he had been to the Australian Embassy which had launched an investigation into the forgeries.
He also stated, as in the article below, that I was ‘persona non grata’ at the Australian Embassy in Bangkok. This is all news to me – And the sentencing documents are a matter of public record.
I would be grateful if you would clarify these issues and confirm that the Australian authorities have indeed found that the documents were real.
In the meantime I would like to go to the Australian Embassy and make an affirmation to that affect. Can that be arranged?
As this matter is in the Thai courts I would be grateful of an early clarification. Please note I am not asking you to provide personal consular information about any third party and there is no need even to mention Mr. Goudie in your reply to me. I would however seek clarification that I am not under investigation for any criminal matter.
While the court judgment and judges summing up are clearly public records – if it is an offence to disseminate his release record from Nakea Prison WA, please let me know. It is not important in the scheme of things and there is no need for me to do so.
Please see attachments.
Yours Sincerely
Andrew Drummond
Correspondent London Evening Standard
http://andrew-drummond-watch.blogspot.com/2013/05/andrew-drummond-now-under-investigation.html (now deleted)
What Goudie wrote:
About Andrew Drummond UK journalist turned Bangkok Thailand blogger:
This blogger has been advised that Andrew Drummond is now under investigation by State and Commonwealth Authorities in Australia., that could see the journalist facing jail time if convicted.
A source inside the Australian Embassy in Bangkok this week confirmed that following a complaint made directly to the Australian Ambassador, H.E. James Wise, by a UK national, which was copied to the Commonwealth Attorney General, along with letters of complaint sent to several other agencies asking if documents posted on the renegade bloggers web site were real or not.
The Australian Ambassador after being asked to confirm that Australian government officials in Bangkok had provided documents to Drummond as he claimed, generated a storm of correspondence that resulted in this response from one of the agencies:
‘As you will be aware your complaint was forwarded for assessment to the Department’s Professional Conduct Assessment & Review area. Following that, I emailed you regarding obtaining further information which you provided on 7 and 8 May 2013.
The assessment has now been finalised and the matter has been referred to Central Investigations (CI) for investigation’
Drummond allegedly stupidly bragged that Australian Embassy officials have been providing him ‘back door’ copies of documents, which is highly illegal in Australia and could result in the responsible officers being prosecuted – however when the documents were more closely examined critical information was not present.
Officials are now remaining tight-lipped pending the outcome of the investigation and sources advise this blogger Drummond is now officially ‘persona non grata’ at the Australian Embassy.
This blogger will report again as the story unfolds…………………………….
er, the story did not unfold.
I've yet to read an account of why Brian Goldie decided to change his name to Brian Goudie.
Maybe Brian would like to shed some light on this. Most reasonable people would guess it's because of his need to hide his past criminal convictions but who knows, there could have been other reasons.
The 3 stooges all have problems with the truth it seems. It does seem that the odd man out here though is Hanks. He seems to have actually had a successful business as a licencee of safe sex rooms in Australia where Brian was locked up.
He denies ever being a pimp though, unless he is big noting himself.
He also claims that he was not a pimp while also claiming that all the Asian hotties working in his broth, er, safe sex rooms were all looked after and happily employed. However, on a blog that I would think was started by an untrustworthy American, one reader/blogger alleges that it was not really as Hanks has described.
, http://andre-machielsen-faces-court.blogspot.no/
There a quite a few posts on this site. Very entertaining. The comments about Hanks are under the story titled
Father Christmas Loses Master Safety . Gee I wonder who wrote that one? You never know these days with everybody hacking into other peoples computers and staff members using their bosses' phones and writing in perfect American English.
The post I refer to was made on June 23 at 11.17 pm.
Of course none of what is posted there can be proven. Who do you believe?
Andrew if you continue down the libel route, count me in for support, will gladly send any free cash, and some not so free. Good Luck
Thanks Tony – I try not to put out appeals until things get critical. Things are running to course at the moment. But sure as the lord made toffee apples I am sure there will come a time again.
Count me in too.
I see quite a bit of hypocrisy going on. Men come in legions to Thailand in order to engage in illegal prostitution. It can be argued it is the main draw for them, in fact. Yet, many seem to find it amusing to call an operator of a legal establishment slanderous names and infer some kind of shame in it..
A pimp is a person who operates illegal prostitutes , usually by exploited their labor in various manners and I agree it is a libelous term.
Anyone who provides safe, legal means for prostitution seems to be doing everyone a valued service.
Your are quite wrong Christy. A pimp is merely person who makes money out of the earnings of woman who provide sexual services, whether legal or not. Woman should not need pimps. But in certain areas they want them for protection. Having said that. Yes it is construed as a derogatory expression in so far as most pimps have not exactly gained a reputation as social workers.
Actually your both wrong, a pimp is someone who provides or solicits services for and on behalf of others it is not a derogatory expression, I do not believe it could ever be considered libellous in any way to call any business owner a pimp.
Andrew,
I've "pimped out" my minions in the past if another supervisor needed a hand. My "gain" was returned favors, beers or occasionally a dinner. However, what we (the supervisors) thought that made us pimps was the selling of the services rather than the return.
Interestingly I asked one of the legal team at work if anyone could be sued for libel in the UK for calling someone a pimp, he said unequivocally no as the word does not have any "derogatory intent".
Andrew, did you solicitors research the original English meaning of the word?
Yes Hanks provided his explanation of what a pimp was and we provided the OED version.
Its not about pimp. I have just got the judgment and having it translated. This wont hold up at appeal I am sure. Thais judging libel on a English language website, registered in the UK and hosted in the US is a novel area. But I do not wish to comment until I have had the full EL translation.
Forgive me. I cannot take any more comments on the virtues or otherwise of using the word pimp. There is a reason for this which will out in due course.
Suffice to say that I have used the word pimp and the court has not ruled that I was wrong in doing so.
This is all a distraction – Hanks standing up as a witness in defence of Drew Noyes is far more interesting.
He must surely be doing the head math on this and asking himself – "If I stand witness for Noyes but he still goes down, where does that leave me?"
If I where Hanks I'd play the safe bet – if in doubt – do nothing.
If on the other hand Hanks does show up – well he can't exactly dodge the consequences of evidence he himself gives under oath.
Who'd want to be in that position for Noyes.
Surely Noyes can get one or two of his fellow photo moment people to stand up and give him a character reference. They've all been his friends for such a very long time. (though that time might now be coming to a close – clunk click like a jailer's lock).
Andrew,
Seems I am corrected, then and understand why the discussion cannot go on. Thank you, (as always) for keeping the discussion on a civil level.
After reading all about David Hanks on
http://andre-machielsen-faces-court.blogspot.no/
it makes me wonder why Hanks is not suing the owner of that site as far more libelous information on his activities in Australia are detailed there.
This site also lists many of Drew Noyes' achievements and attacks Drews' enemies, so I would think it was set up by somebody close to Drew. Perhaps David should ask Drew who he thinks did it. Andre may also have a libel case as well.
Thats just one of many anonymous sites set up by 'friends' of Drew which backfired on him because they (he) could not control it.
So Andrew Drummond has been exposed as being caught with a prostitute!
Who exposed you Andrew?
Would it be somebody who has a live in from the Buffalo Bar? Was it somebody who met his last ex girlfriend at a Pattaya go go club and also moved her in to live with him but was then dumped for being to low so for her family? Or do you think it may have been somebody who sold Asian Hotties for sex as his business in Australia and lived the good life from their earnings?
Who dunnit?
Possibly one more suit against 'Goldie' coming up; Thai prostitute sues for slander that she was caught with that journalist Drummond –
😉
Thanks Dave. I think the girl is not a pro but head of pr at a well known…….
I think everyone is confused here. He told me he met her when she was working at the Royal Cliff Resort in Pattaya. All this stuff about the Buffalo Bar is just based on photos that were likely photo shopped.
Claes You are referring to comments on another site. K worked at the Royal Cliff – Naam worked at the Buffalo, if these are the answers to confusion.
Now I think about it, I do believe it was the 5 star Mangus Evans Resort and Spa in Jomtien.
They are having a few specials this month.
30% off. Just ask for Mangus and tell them Drew sent you.
A free in room massage performed by specialist named Nam for anybody who buys a Keha Condo.
25% off if you spend over 1000 baht at the Buffalo Bar.
50% off if you invest in the luxury Lumpini Condos in North Pattaya.
2 nights free stay if you bring in a current copy of the Bangkok Pattaya Times.
40% off spa treatments if you spend 300,000 baht to get a 65 baht divorce.
Buy one night, get one free if you spend 2,000 baht at Cupids, Zebra Bar or Lollipop.
Visa overstayers are guaranteed complete safety as not even the immigration police can find it.
All members of Officialblowjobs.com receive 10% off all meals.
Bring your Filipino staff and get a free upgrade to a room with special locks.
Free use of the function rooms for all Godfather parties.
And all guests receive a free photo with the most trusting, lovable, credible American to have ever lived.
Stan Longley and Somchai are lazing by the resorts infinity edge pool as we speak, enjoying their complimentary arrival drink, Black and Coke.