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| Drew Noyes – media magnate? Or a man with many judgements out against him in the U.S. |
The Pattaya Times newspaper and the Pattaya-Times are disassociating themselves from each other. And in new wheezes and japes by the founder American Drew Noyes, editors are being changed as have managing directors. These are all of course nominal.
Are the people at the Pattaya Times, which founder Drew Noyes boasts has a readership of 500,000, out of sorts with the people at the Pattaya Times online version which boasts it is Thailand’s leading source for Pattaya news and is also paper with the Bangkok Post?
Not at all. They all sit at the same desk. Or rather he sits at the same desk and sends his copy up to a hack in Chiang Mai to proof read. Below is what you get if you google the Pattaya Times.
Now the new look online Pattaya Time is registered to a young 14-year-old girl going under the name Narin Chaisit. Could she be the 12-year-old daughter of Drew Noyes who he claimed was fond of blogging?
But her name was Narin Noyes and although she does live in Bangkok, its at a totally different address to the one the site is registered at. Chaisit is the surname of Noyes’ former wife Nittaya, who has, well not really, all that property in the U.S. which she cannot get to. Geddit? And as for Mr. Noyes……
“He’s going crazy at the moment,” said a recently defected employee. “His business is down. There are tax problems on the horizon, and he sees the man responsible for all his misfortune as Andrew Drummond. He has organized anti-drummond blogs, but nobody reads them. So Pattaya Times is going to be an anti-Andrew Drummond site too now.”
Well let’s see then. Oh yes. I think this guy is right. This is the current front page (26/02/2013)
Splash:
So what’s the truth of this story? Court bond states he has to pay 50,000 baht or more. He’s a fugitive from justice? Court has ruled he was wrong for posting article etc.. There were of course no such statements from the court. Seems Noyes only has the case number right. This is an identical case to ‘Going to jail’ picture case thrown out last week by Pattaya judges. This case will also be thrown out if there is a consistency in judgements.
Second Lead:
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Some mistake surely – One charge of libel against him brought by Andre Machielsen was dismissed but is being appealed. Then he has invented a false summary of the judgement which includes this:
A twist in the case, introduced by hate blogger Andrew Drummond in yet another of Mr. Drummond’s false statements on his blog site, which stated several times that Mr. Machielsen was a Thai national. Mr. Machielsen while on the stand denied having Thai citizenship, and admitted he is a citizen of the Netherlands. A summary of a judges comment indeed.
Drew Noyes has yet to be cleared of extortion – a case brought by Dr. Michel of the Jomtien Clinic and fraud brought by Theo Van der Schaaf – and of course a case of being in breach of a court order brought by Andrew Drummond.
Third lead:
Drew Noyes Acquitted of All Charges; Andre Machielsen, Andrew Drummond, Thor Halland Likely Charged.
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Que? This is the Andre Machielsen case again. Andrew Drummond has nothing whatever do to with this case but Drew Noyes adds: “Lawyers who have filed multiple criminal charges for defamation and cyber crimes against Andrew Drummond are considering how to add Drummond to this case.”
Machielsen and Halland are unlikely to be charged with anything.
Of those multiple cases by the way there is one left and a second ‘Going to Jail’ picture case.
Fourth Lead:
Well you can forget about that. It is not going to happen – This is what the story about the latest Noyes venture says.
“The Bangkok Pattaya Weekly newspaper will also be the first joint city newspaper covering events, business, sports, entertainment and all news of interest concerning the capital city of Bangkok and the largest beach resort in Asia, nearby Pattaya.
Much of the news will be gathered by seasoned journalists in Bangkok and Pattaya. However, because the nature of the new publication is oriented around travel between the two mega-cities, the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) will provide news as it does at its website http://www.tourismthailand.org/”.
Sixth Lead:
Some mistake here again. Drew Noyes is in court in May in a case filed by lawyers for Andrew Drummond – the charge – breach of a court order. No such charges are on file against Andrew Drummond.
Seventh lead:
This story which carries a prominent picture of Andrew Drummond has been up on the website for yonks and was originally published in the Pattaya Times. This is the classic mysterious Mangus Evans letter (using the word wanker now edited out) writing in allegedly to Drew Noyes to complain about a story Andrew Drummond has written about Farmer Joe Stanyer, a turkey farmer in Hua Hin – who has lost almost everything to his Thai wife.
Joe had to send his kids back to England while he was sorting out the mess. They were put in the care of Redbridge Council Social Services.
Drew Noyes wrote:
“Andrew Drummond also writes on his blog (BTW, my 12-year-old has a blog, too and she says it’s cool to write stuff someone else might read!):
“This story could suspend one’s belief so much so that even social workers from Redbridge Council in Essex want to check it out. And to do so, while Britain seems to be plummeting into a double-dip recession, they say they have announced that they are sending over a case officer to investigate.”
Well, we contacted the Redbridge Council in Essex and they are not planning to send any social workers to Thailand.
I would tell Andrew Drummond to stick to writing the truth instead of confusing people with things he makes up, but I would not want to encourage him to publish anything else on his sensational blog. For general knowledge, stick to the main sites with fluid, moving forums, not sensational, negative one-man blogs by unemployed guys with a computer.
For the facts about Thai law make a free appointment and come see us at PAPPA Co., Ltd. Law Office”
I can confirm that Drew Noyes was not told anything by Redbridge Council as it is against the law to discuss children in care with third and outside parties. I can confirm also that a social worker from Redbridge Council has visited Thailand to see both the situation Farmer Joe is in, and also that of his wife, and I can also confirm that Joe is suing his bent lawyer, who had been struck off years ago – so I would not place too much on what his PAPPA company say!
The Pattaya Times – all the news you can use?
Now a few reasons why Mr. Noyes finds Pattaya such a welcoming place and does not want to return from whence he came. There are many more.
At the time of his departure from the U.S. some 7 cases had been filed against him in North Carolina, and that was in just one state. These included assaults on females.
Restraining orders had been issued in favour of his ex wife..and of course there is a judgement of US$72,000 against him in favour of one Tom Flanagan for share fraud renewed in March 2012.
As I said in my last post, I doubt Noyes has either the money or backers some people seem to think he has. Nobody except a fool backs a horse with no form. It’s poetic justice Noyes was exposed on a news blog after he used his own media to persecute and harm others. It’s pretty shameless of him to try to blame Andrew for his problems. Andrew didn’t write his phony resume or scam people out of their money by claiming to be a lawyer amongst other things. He also doesn’t seem understand libel laws and the fact they don’t apply when somebody tells the truth about you. I also don’t believe he has the ‘influential friends’ he claims to have. These people won’t lift a finger for you without payment and as Noyes has been exposed as a shameless liar, I doubt they will be fronting up to court to be character witnesses for him. Realistically he probably has two choices in the long run, stay and fight and see his money lost to endless appeals and litigations -or run away and try to start afresh.
About his choices,here in Brazil there is a popular wise saying ¨ If you stay the wolf will eat you, if you run the wolf will catch you¨. I believe he is in this exact situation. How can you run with 4 wifes and 10 kids,can he afford it,(question mark),but there must be another problem in between, hasn´t the court witheld his Passport as they do with every suspected criminal who is a foreigner (question mark). Since he has not received the 7 million he needed on that desperate attempt of blackmail, that cost him an unexpected 100.000, from the 2.000.000 he got from the Dutch man in Samui, he will have to repay that plus all the expenses comming along with lawyers, court and lost bribes which can hardly pay for so much mess and being so open to the public eye. Anyway this whole saga is so much fun to follow I think someone should think of making a novel out of it, I suggest tha title be * The rise and fall of an American Conman in the Land of Smiles¨.There is not much more to be written,all has been already written, one only needs to put the pieces toghether.
Of course it would make Drew a notorious character, it could also become a bestseller but it would surely stop the train…
"However, because the nature of the new publication is oriented around travel between the two mega-cities, the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) will provide news as it does at its website http://www.tourismthailand.org/”.
You are Kidding surely?? He's gonna print out the TAT website and call it a newspaper? LOL, well at least he's honest and up front about it!
"understand libel laws and the fact they don’t apply when somebody tells the truth about you.'
Arun, the libel laws are wider in Thailand and cover naming and shaming whether the truth is involved or not. Damage to a business or reputation is not dealt with in Thailand as in the West. And he is under Thai jurisdiction. The fact AD and he are not Thai is irrelevant. Having said that, AD seems to have adequately covered his position and should win the day in court; but your logic on how libel works in Thailand is wrong. Thee is no international standard on libel rules. What applies here is governed by Thai statute and Thai statute alone.
You accept he scammed people out of money but then go on to say "I doubt Noyes has either the money…". The sums were not trivial so I'm not sure you can speculate that he's now a pauper.
His backers may now be fleeing, or they may not. Money may determine that. Wishful thinking will not.
"understand libel laws and the fact they don’t apply when somebody tells the truth about you.'
Arun, the libel laws are wider in Thailand and cover naming and shaming whether the truth is involved or not. Damage to a business or reputation is not dealt with in Thailand as in the West. And he is under Thai jurisdiction. The fact AD and he are not Thai is irrelevant. Having said that, AD seems to have adequately covered his position and should win the day in court; but your logic on how libel works in Thailand is wrong. Thee is no international standard on libel rules. What applies here is governed by Thai statute and Thai statute alone.
You accept he scammed people out of money but then go on to say "I doubt Noyes has either the money…". The sums were not trivial so I'm not sure you can speculate that he's now a pauper.
His backers may now be fleeing, or they may not. Money may determine that. Wishful thinking will not.
"(BTW, my 12-year-old has a blog, too and she says it’s cool to write stuff someone else might read!)…."
I wonder if her blog is called the Pattaya-Times? It certainly seems as if a twelve year old wrote it.
Well I'd be careful about portraying a guy as being powerful and influential just because he has managed to get his picture taken with a few people in uniforms. He is just another an self-inflated conman. Under Thai law he cannot own Thai property, he cannot have majority control of his companies. I'd suggest his whole financial well being probably involves him keeping his current wife and nominees on his side. She might get sick of being dragged into court and cut and run herself. Sure he's made a few big scores but he's not going to get off extortion charges cheaply. Now his ability to make these big scores has been clearly limited thanks to the exposure he has got on this site. When the money gets scarcer we'll see how many loyal friends and wives he can keep supporting him. It's important to keep these discussions going as every page devoted to Noyes gets links on search engines and more people get to know about him. He's caused enough trouble already.
Doi I believe AD has won a prior round a exposing DN as it was in the public interest. I believe the mitigating factor in Thai law is; was it done to harass, or for the public good?